Hedwige Forbach
1050-1088
Born: Forbach, Rastatt, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany
Died: Nancy, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
1050-1088
Born: Forbach, Rastatt, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany
Died: Nancy, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
GRAFEN von FORMBACH<pre> </pre><pre> </pre><p><strong>THIEMO</strong> [I] [Dietmar], son of Graf BERTHOLD & his wife --- (-7 Mar [1050]). Wegener refers to Graf Berthold, son of Graf Ulrich, transferring his bondsman Rihgart on his deathbed into the hands of his son Graf Tiemo by charter dated [1000/05]<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[454]</span></span></span></span>. According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Udalricus senex comes genuit sex filios Arnoldum, Piligrimum, Brunonem, Tyemonem, Chounradum clericum Salzburgensem prepositum, Meginhardum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[455]</span></span></span></span>, but this appears to be inaccurate. The <em>Vita Wirntonis</em> names "<em>Eckebertus comes, avo suo Thymone</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[456]</span></span></span></span>. "<em>Heinricus…rex</em>" restored property "<em>villam Flinsbach dictam in pago Sueinihgouui sitam et in comitatu Tiemonis comitis</em>" to Kloster Niederaltach by charter dated 5 Nov 1005<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[457]</span></span></span></span>. Graf im Schweinachgau. "<em>Heinricus…rex</em>" granted market and customs rights at "<em>villa Helmgerisperk…in comitatu Thiemonis</em>" to Kloster Niederaltach by charter dated 7 Jun 1009<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[458]</span></span></span></span>. Graf in Reichenhall. Graf im Salzburggau 1007. "<em>Chunigundæ imperatricis augustæ</em>" donated property to the church of Freising by charter dated 1025, witnessed by "…<em>Tiemo comes…Heinrih filius Tiemonis comitis</em>…"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[459]</span></span></span></span>. "<em>Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus</em>" confirmed market and customs rights "<em>in villa Helmgerisberk…in comitatu Theimonis</em>" to Kloster Niedaltaich by charter dated 19 Feb 1049<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[460]</span></span></span></span>. Wegener refers to an exchange of property between Thiemo grandfather of Oudalrich von Windeperge and Egilbert Bishop of Passau dated [1045/50]<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[461]</span></span></span></span>. The necrology of the Niedermünster at Regensburg records the death "<em>Non Mar</em>" of "<em>Diemar com</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[462]</span></span></span></span>. </p><p><strong><span style="color: gray">m</span></strong> ---. The name of Thiemo's wife is not known. </p><p>Graf Thiemo [I] & his wife had eight children:</p><p style="margin-: 1cm; text-indent: -1cm">1.<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">THIEMO</span></strong> [II] [Dietmar] (-killed in battle 28 Aug 1040). According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Tiemo senior genuit iuniorem Tiemonem, Hermannum Bambergensem prepositum, Dietricum clericum, Fridericum, Heinricum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[463]</span></span></span></span>. </p><p style="text-indent: 1cm">- <strong>see below</strong>. </p><p style="margin-: 1cm; text-indent: -1cm">2.<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">HEINRICH </span></strong>[I] [Hesso] (-[1030]). According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Tiemo senior genuit iuniorem Tiemonem, Hermannum Bambergensem prepositum, Dietricum clericum, Fridericum, Heinricum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[464]</span></span></span></span>. "<em>Chunigundæ imperatricis augustæ</em>" donated property to the church of Freising by charter dated 1025, witnessed by "…<em>Tiemo comes…Heinrih filius Tiemonis comitis</em>…"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[465]</span></span></span></span>. <strong><span style="color: gray">m</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: gray">HIMILTRUD</span></strong>, daughter of ---. Wegener refers to the donation to St Emmeram dated [1030] by Himildrud widow, with powers to her son Hermann, for the soul of her husband Heinrich, witnessed by "<em>Routpreht comes, Meginhart comes</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[466]</span></span></span></span>. Graf Heinrich [I] & his wife had [three] children: </p><p style="margin-: 2cm; text-indent: -1cm">a)<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">HERMANN</span></strong> . Wegener refers to the donation to St Emmeram dated [1030] by Himildrud widow, with powers to her son Hermann, for the soul of her husband Heinrich, witnessed by "<em>Routpreht comes, Meginhart comes</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[467]</span></span></span></span>. </p><p style="margin-: 2cm; text-indent: -1cm">b)<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span>[<strong><span style="color: gray">TUTA</span></strong> . Proof that Heinrich [I] [von Formbach] had a daughter named Tuta seems shaky. It depends on the interpretation of two documents, the first of which is the <em>Codex Traditionum</em> of Formbach monastery which records a donation by "<em>domna Himildrudis filia Hessonis</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[468]</span></span></span></span>, and the second the same source which records a dispute with Suben monastery and names "<em>due…sorores Touta et Himildrud…nobilissimis</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[469]</span></span></span></span>. The basis for assuming that "Hesso" is the same person as "Heinrich [I]" is unclear.] <em>same person as…?</em> <strong><span style="color: gray">TUTA</span></strong> (-2 Feb or 14 Mar [after 1070]). "Tuta von Formbach" is shown as the wife of Péter King of Hungary in <em>Europäische</em><em> Stammtafeln</em><span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[470]</span></span></span></span>. No primary source has been identified which indicates either the marriage of King Péter to "Tuta" or Tuta's parentage. As shown below, there are late references to a "Queen Tuta" having founded the monastery of Suben (near Schärding in Upper Austria), one of which states that she was "queen of Hungary". No primary source has been found which links "Queen Tuta" with Tuta, joint founder of Vornbach monastery together with her sister Himiltrud, whose father "Hesso" is assessed by Wegener to have been the same person as Heinrich [I] [von Formbach]. Wegener says<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[471]</span></span></span></span> that "Queen Tuta" was the second wife of Béla I King of Hungary, the marriage having taken place after the death of his first wife which he dates to "after 1052" (<em>Europäische Stammtafeln</em> suggests that King Béla's first wife died "after 1059"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[472]</span></span></span></span>). He bases his argument on connections with the monastery of Suben founded in 1040. He explains<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[473]</span></span></span></span> that Archbishop Eberhard (von Sulzbach) names "Tuta" (in a document dated 1153, more than a century after the events) as "die Gründerin von Suben, Königin", and that in an even later document from the monastery she is called "Königin von Ungarn", although it cannot be concluded from these documents that she was queen at the date she founded the monastery. He then highlights a connection between possible descendants of King Béla's daughter Sophia (by her first husband Ulrich Marchese of Istria) and the same monastery which, he suggests, indicates that Sophia was the daughter of "Queen Tuta". The chronology of his argument is shaky as Sophia must have been born before [1050], when King Béla's known Polish wife appears still to have been alive. Who, then, was "Queen Tuta" and who was her husband? The existence of a "Queen Tuta" is confirmed by the necrology of Regensburg Monastery which records the death "<em>IV Non Feb</em>" of "<em>Tuta regina</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[474]</span></span></span></span>, although this gives no indication of the country involved or the date of her death. Assuming that Tuta was queen of Hungary, and that she lived during the mid-11th century, her possible husbands are King Péter, King Sámuel Aba, King András I and King Béla I. The last-named is unlikely, as shown above. His brother and predecessor, King András, is recorded as having married a Russian princess. This leaves King Sámuel and King Péter. Nothing is known of the wife of the former, but considering his probable date of birth it is likely that he was married before his accession in 1041, in which case his wife was most likely a Hungarian noblewoman. This leaves King Péter, a possibility which Wegener apparently ignores. There appears no factual basis for the speculation that "Queen Tuta" was the wife of King Péter, although the necrology of Regensburg St Emmeran which records her death also includes a reference to the death "<em>III Kal Sep</em>" of "<em>Petrus Ungariorum rex</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[475]</span></span></span></span>. An alternative explanation for the Suben connection would be that Sophia was the daughter of King Péter and Tuta. However, contemporary political realities suggest that a prominent marriage for a daughter of the disgraced King Péter is unlikely. Until more information comes to light, it is safer to assume that Sophia was the daughter of King Béla and [Ryksa] of Poland, that another (so far unidentified) factor explains the apparent connection between Tuta and Sophia through Suben monastery, and that Tuta was the wife of King Péter. This last conclusion suggests that it is even less likely that Tuta's parentage was as suggested in <em>Europäische</em><em> Stammtafeln</em>. If the marriage took place before Péter's accession, it is difficult to explain why the son of an ex-Doge of Venice (his father had been deposed in 1026) would marry the daughter of an obscure Bavarian noble. If the marriage occurred after Péter became king, it seems likely that his supporters would have been able to arrange a more prominent marriage for their new ruler, particular as his sister was married to the Markgraf of Austria soon after his accession. No primary source has been identified which throws light on the year of Tuta's death. Assuming that her husband's second marriage is correct, she must have died many years before the "after 1070" which is suggested by <em>Europäische</em><em> Stammtafeln</em><span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[476]</span></span></span></span>. <strong><span style="color: gray">m</span></strong> [as his first wife,] <strong>PÉTER King of Hungary</strong>, son of PIETRO OTTONE Orseolo Doge of Venice & his wife Maria [Grimelda] of Hungary ([Venice] [1010/15]-[30 Aug] [1060], bur Pécs, St Peter's Cathedral). </p><p style="margin-: 2cm; text-indent: -1cm">c)<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span>[<strong><span style="color: gray">HIMILTRUD</span></strong> . Proof that Heinrich [I] [von Formbach] had a daughter named Himiltrud seems shaky. It depends on the interpretation of two documents, the first of which is the <em>Codex Traditionum</em> of Formbach monastery which records a donation by "<em>domna Himildrudis filia Hessonis</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[477]</span></span></span></span>, and the second the same source which records a dispute with Suben monastery and names "<em>due…sorores Touta et Himildrud…nobilissimis</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[478]</span></span></span></span>. The basis for assuming that "Hesso" is the same person as "Heinrich [I]" is unclear. She founded Kollegiatstift Vornbach before 1050. 1070.] </p><p style="margin-: 1cm; text-indent: -1cm">3.<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">PILGRIM</span></strong> . Wegener refers to a donation by "<em>Edle</em><em> Tiemo</em>" to St Emmeram for the entry of his brother Piligrim into the monastery<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[479]</span></span></span></span>. Monk at St Emmeran [1035]. </p><p style="margin-: 1cm; text-indent: -1cm">4.<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">DIETRICH</span></strong> (-5 Jul after [1059/64]). According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Tiemo senior genuit iuniorem Tiemonem, Hermannum Bambergensem prepositum, Dietricum clericum, Fridericum, Heinricum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[480]</span></span></span></span>. Canon at Bamberg Cathedral. </p><p style="margin-: 1cm; text-indent: -1cm">5.<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">ULRICH</span></strong> [IV] . "<em>Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus</em>" donated property "<em>in orientali pago iuxta flumen Suarzaha…quam ibi possedet Odalricus filius Tiemonis comitis</em>" to Kloster Niederaltaich by charter dated 8 Apr 1048<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[481]</span></span></span></span>. </p><p style="margin-: 1cm; text-indent: -1cm">6.<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">HERMANN</span></strong> (-23 Dec 1064). According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Tiemo senior genuit iuniorem Tiemonem, Hermannum Bambergensem prepositum, Dietricum clericum, Fridericum, Heinricum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[482]</span></span></span></span>. Provost at Bamberg Cathedral 1059. He inherited the town of Kunstadt from Adalbert "<em>urbis comes</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[483]</span></span></span></span>. </p><p style="margin-: 1cm; text-indent: -1cm">7.<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">FRIEDRICH</span></strong> (-killed [1060], bur Vornbach). According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Tiemo senior genuit iuniorem Tiemonem, Hermannum Bambergensem prepositum, Dietricum clericum, Fridericum, Heinricum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[484]</span></span></span></span>. <strong><span style="color: gray">m</span></strong> as her first husband, <strong>GERTRUD von Haldensleben</strong>, daughter of KONRAD Graf von Haldensleben [Nordmark] & his wife --- [von Friesland] (-21 Feb 1116). According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Fridericus senioris Tiemonis filius</em>" married "<em>neptem ipsius regis Gertrudem</em>", the king referred to being Heinrich IV King of Germany, and was buried at Formbach<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[485]</span></span></span></span>. The primary source which confirms her precise parentage has not yet been identified. She married secondly as his second wife, <strong>Ordulf Duke in Saxony</strong> [Billung]. The Annalista Saxo records the death in 1116 of "<em>Gertrudis ductrix, avia Liuderi ducis</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[486]</span></span></span></span>. Graf Friedrich & his wife had one child: </p><p style="margin-: 2cm; text-indent: -1cm">a)<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">HEDWIG</span></strong> (-[1090/93]). The <em>Vita Wirntonis</em> names "<em>Fridericus</em>" as father of "<em>Hedwigis, mater Lotharii regis</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[487]</span></span></span></span>. According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Hadewic mater Lotharii regis et Ite comitisse de Purchausen</em>" was the only daughter of "<em>Fridericus senioris Tiemonis filius</em>" & his wife<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[488]</span></span></span></span>. Her alleged first marriage to "Graf Heinrich" is based on a misinterpretation of the report that Simon Duke of Lorraine married "<em>his stepmother's daughter whom she had by her first husband Graf Heinrich</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[489]</span></span></span></span>, assuming that Duke Simon was therefore the son of Hedwig's second husband, Thierry II Duke of Lorraine, by his second wife Gertrud de Flandre. According to <em>Europäische</em><em> Stammtafeln</em><span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[490]</span></span></span></span>, Duke Simon was the son of his father's first wife Hedwig. Poull<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[491]</span></span></span></span> refers to several sources which apparently indicate that he was the son of Duke Thierry II's second marriage, including Duke Simon's own act dated 11 Apr 1126 referring to his deceased "<em>mother Gertrude</em>". However, the chronology is highly unfavourable for this possibility. If Duke Simon's wife had been the daughter of Hedwig von Formbach, by an otherwise unknown first husband, she must have been born before 1072, considering that Hedwig gave birth to two children by her husband Gerhard von Süpplingenburg who died in 1075. This would be incompatible with Duke Simon's wife having given birth to at least seven children, even if their marriage took place as early as [1112/13] as suggested by Poull. <strong><span style="color: gray">m firstly</span></strong> <strong>GERHARD von Süpplingenburg</strong> Graf im Harzgau, son of Graf im Harz- und Derlingau und in Nordthüringen & his wife Ida von Querfurt (-killed in battle Homburg 9 Jun 1075). <strong><span style="color: gray">m secondly</span></strong> ([1080]) as his first wife, <strong>THIERRY II Duke of Lorraine</strong>, son of GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia [Matfriede] & his wife Hadwide --- (-30 Dec 1115). </p><p style="margin-: 1cm; text-indent: -1cm">8.<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span>[<strong><span style="color: gray">MEGINHARD</span></strong><strong><span style="color: gray"> IV</span></strong> (-killed in battle 1066). According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Meginhardus frater senioris Tiemonis genuit Oudalricum, Hermannum provincie comitem et Chunradum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[492]</span></span></span></span>, although it appears chronologically more probable that Meginhard was the son rather than brother of "<em>senioris Tiemonis</em>" considering that it is unlikely that Meginhard's sons were born much before [1045/50]. Vogt von Niederaltaich [1060].] </p><p style="margin-: 1cm">- <strong>GRAFEN von RATELBERG und WINDBERG</strong>. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: gray">THIEMO</span></strong> [II] [Dietmar], son of THIEMO [I] [Dietmar] Graf im Schweinachgau & his wife --- (-killed in battle 28 Aug 1040). Wegener refers to a document which names "<em>Tietmarus filius Dietmari presidis</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[493]</span></span></span></span>. According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Tiemo senior genuit iuniorem Tiemonem, Hermannum Bambergensem prepositum, Dietricum clericum, Fridericum, Heinricum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[494]</span></span></span></span>. The Annalista Saxo records that "<em>Gebehardus comes, Wulframus, Thietmarus cum pluribus Bawaricis militibus</em>" were killed fighting the Bohemians with Otto Markgraf von Schweinfurt 28 Aug 1040<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[495]</span></span></span></span>. </p><p><strong><span style="color: gray">m</span></strong> ---. The name and origin of Graf Thiemo's wife are unknown. Wegener suggests that she was --- <strong>von Braunschweig</strong>, daughter of Bruno [I] Graf von Braunschweig & his wife Gisela of Swabia, to explain the transmission of the names Bruno and Ekbert into the family of the Grafen von Formbach<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[496]</span></span></span></span>, although the reference to the name Bruno may be incorrect as shown below. This appears supported by "<em>Conradus…Romanorum rex secundus</em>" granting the right to market and minting coins in Dorf Neunkirchen to "<em>consanguinei nostri Ekkerbti comitis</em>" by charter dated [Jun/Jul] 1141<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[497]</span></span></span></span>, King Konrad III being the great grandson of Heinrich III King of Germany who was the son of Gisela of Swabia by her third husband King Konrad II. </p><p>Graf Thiemo [II] & his wife had [five] children: </p><p style="margin-: 1cm; text-indent: -1cm">1.<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">EKBERT</span></strong> [I] (-1109). According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Tiemo iunior genuit Ekkebertum, Heinricum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[498]</span></span></span></span>. <strong>Graf von Formbach</strong>. </p><p style="text-indent: 1cm">- <strong>see below</strong>. </p><p style="margin-: 1cm; text-indent: -1cm">2.<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span>[<strong><span style="color: gray">BRUNO</span></strong> (-after 1064). Graf von Künzinggau 1064. The existence of a Graf Bruno is proved by the charter dated 4 Feb 1064 by which "<em>Heinricus…rex</em>" restored and confirmed property "<em>Otmaringen in pago Cunzingowe in comitatu Brunonis comitis…post mortem Reginhardi comitis qui illud in beneficium habuit</em>" to Kloster Obermünster at Regensburg<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[499]</span></span></span></span>. Wegener suggests that "<em>Reginhardi</em>" in this document is a mistranscription of "<em>Meginhardi</em>" and therefore that Bruno was a member of the family of the Grafen von Formbach. He suggests that he was the oldest son of Graf Thiemo [II]<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[500]</span></span></span></span>, presumably to fit with his theory concerning the Brunswick origin of Graf Thiemo's wife. He is not mentioned as son of Graf Thiemo [II] in either of the other sources which name Graf Thiemo's sons (see above). The <em>Annales Necrologici Fuldenses</em> record the death "<em>1062</em>" of "<em>Reginh com</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[501]</span></span></span></span> which suggests the separate existence of Reginhard. If this is correct, the only link with this family is broken. According to <em>Europäische</em><em> Stammtafeln</em><span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[502]</span></span></span></span>, Bruno was another son of Graf Thiemo [I] but it is not known on what information this is based.] </p><p style="margin-: 1cm; text-indent: -1cm">3.<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">HEINRICH</span></strong> [II] (-[1070]). According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Tiemo iunior genuit Ekkebertum, Heinricum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[503]</span></span></span></span>. The <em>Codex Traditionum</em> of Formbach monastery records a dispute with Suben monastery, and names "<em>due…sorores Touta et Himildrud…nobilissimis</em>" and "<em>filios Meginhardi comitis Odalricum et Hermannum ac filios Tiemonis Ekkebertum et Heinricum et domnam Itam</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[504]</span></span></span></span>. Vogt von St Nikola 1070. <strong><span style="color: gray">m</span></strong> as her first husband, <strong><span style="color: gray">ADELHEID</span></strong>, daughter of --- (-[1090]). Wegener refers to a donation by brothers Gebhard and Dietrich to Göttweig after the death of their mother Adelheid dated [1090]<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[505]</span></span></span></span>. Wegener suggests that she was <strong>Adelheid von Sulzbach</strong>, daughter of Gebhard [I] Graf von Sulzbach, to explain why the name Gebhard was given to her older son<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[506]</span></span></span></span>. Graf Heinrich [II] & his wife had three children: </p><p style="margin-: 2cm; text-indent: -1cm">a)<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">GEBHARD</span></strong> (-[1105]). According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Heinricus genuit Gebehardum et Dietricum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[507]</span></span></span></span>. Wegener refers to a donation dated [1074] witnessed by "<em>comes Ekkebertus et puer Gebehardus nepos eius</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[508]</span></span></span></span>. Wegener refers to a donation by brothers Gebhard and Dietrich to Göttweig after the death of their mother Adelheid dated [1090]<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[509]</span></span></span></span>. <strong>Graf von Formbach</strong>. Wegener refers to a donation to Göttweig by Dietrich brother of Graf Gebhard for the soul of the latter dated [1105]<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[510]</span></span></span></span>. </p><p style="margin-: 2cm; text-indent: -1cm">b)<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">BENEDIKTA</span></strong> . [1130]. Wegener refers to the grant by "<em>matrona nobiliter ingénue Benedicta de Adelgeresbach</em>", with the consent of her brother Graf Dietrich, to her "<em>Getreuern Reginger</em>" dated [1130], confirmed by her son Dietrich von Ollersbach after his parents' death<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[511]</span></span></span></span>. <strong><span style="color: gray">m</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: gray">GEBHARD von Ollersbach</span></strong> . </p><p style="margin-: 2cm; text-indent: -1cm">c)<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span><strong><span style="color: gray">DIETRICH</span></strong> (-29/30 Nov [1145], bur Kloster Vornbach). According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Heinricus genuit Gebehardum et Dietricum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[512]</span></span></span></span>. Wegener refers to a donation by brothers Gebhard and Dietrich to Göttweig after the death of their mother Adelheid dated [1090]<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[513]</span></span></span></span>. Graf von Viechtenstein 1116. The <em>Codex Traditionum</em> of Formbach monastery records a donation by "<em>Domnus Dietricus comes de Viehtensteine</em>" for the soul of "<em>uxoris sue domne Adelheide</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[514]</span></span></span></span>. The necrology of Seeon records the death "<em>III Kal Dec</em>" of "<em>Dietricus com</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[515]</span></span></span></span>. The necrology of Scheftlarn records the death "<em>III Kal Dec</em>" of "<em>Dietricus com</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[516]</span></span></span></span>. The necrology of Melk records the death "<em>II Kal Dec</em>" of "<em>Dietricus com</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[517]</span></span></span></span>. <strong><span style="color: gray">m</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: gray">ADELHEID</span></strong>, daughter of --- (-14 Jun ----). The <em>Codex Traditionum</em> of Formbach monastery records a donation by "<em>Domnus Dietricus comes de Viehtensteine</em>" for the soul of "<em>uxoris sue domne Adelheide</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[518]</span></span></span></span>. Wegener suggests that she was the daughter of Liutpold III Markgraf of Austria, on the basis of her husband's death being recorded in the necrology of Scheftlarn, a foundation of Markgraf Luitpold's son Otto Bishop of Freising with which the Grafen von Formbach had no other known connection<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[519]</span></span></span></span>. However, this hypothesis is difficult to sustain from a chronological point of view as Markgraf Luitpold III second marriage took place in 1105 while Adelheid was already married to Dietrich in 1120. The necrology of Melk records the death "<em>XVIII Kal Jul</em>" of "<em>Adalheid com</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[520]</span></span></span></span>. Graf Dietrich & his wife had [one] child: </p><p style="margin-: 3cm; text-indent: -1cm">i)<span style="font: 7pt 'times new roman'"> </span>[<strong><span style="color: gray">HEDWIG</span></strong> (-4 Feb 1170, bur Reichersberg). "<em>Dominus Engelbertus Hallensis Comes…cum uxore sua Hadewiga et duobus filiis suis Gebehardo et Diterico</em>" donated property to Reichersberg monastery by charter dated to [1150]<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[521]</span></span></span></span>. Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1160] under which "<em>Domina Hadewick Comitissa</em>" donated property to Reichersberg monastery, for the souls of "<em>senioris sui Comitis Engelberei et patris sui Comitis Diterici</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[522]</span></span></span></span>, on the assumption that "<em>Comitis Diterici</em>" was Dietrich Graf von Viechtenstein although this is probably not without all doubt. Wegener refers to the uncertainty about the identity of Hedwig´s father, but adds that this is indicated by Graf Engelbert owning Viechtenstein and Kreizenstein after Graf Dietrich's death<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[523]</span></span></span></span>. "<em>Nobilis Princeps Dominus Gebehardus Hallensis Comes…cum matre sua Domina Hadewiga comitissa</em>" donated property to Reichersberg monastery, with the consent of "<em>fratre suo comite Diterico</em>", by charter dated to [1160]<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[524]</span></span></span></span>. She became a nun at Reichersberg. The <em>Chronicon Magni Presbiteri</em> records the burial "<em>VI Id Feb 1170</em>" of "<em>domna Hadewich ex comitissa conversa</em>" in "<em>capitolio canonicorum</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[525]</span></span></span></span>. <strong><span style="color: gray">m</span></strong> (before 1145) <strong>ENGELBERT Graf von Wasserburg</strong>, Hallgraf, son of GEBHARD I von Diessen & his wife Richgard von Sponheim (-20 Sep 1161).] </p>
<div>Hedwig von Formbach, Gräfin von Supplinburg<sup>1,2</sup><div>b. circa 1058, d. between 1085 and 1090</div> <div>Hedwig von Formbach, Gräfin von Supplinburg|b. c 1058\nd. bt 1085 - 1090|p351.htm#i6661|Friedrich, Graf von Formbach|b. c 1030\nd. 1059|p345.htm#i6663|Gertrude, Erbin von Haldensleben|b. c 1040\nd. 21 Feb 1116|p359.htm#i6664|Thiemo I., Graf von Formbach und Schweinachgau|b. c 990\nd. c 7 Mar 1050|p343.htm#i8815||||Konrad, Graf von Haldensleben|b. c 1020\nd. b 10 Sep 1056|p344.htm#i8673||||</div>FatherFriedrich, Graf von Formbach<sup>3</sup> b. circa 1030, d. 1059MotherGertrude, Erbin von Haldensleben b. circa 1040, d. 21 February 1116<div> Hedwig <span>von Formbach</span>, Gräfin von Supplinburg was born circa 1058.<sup>4,2</sup> She was the daughter of Friedrich, Graf von Formbach and Gertrude, Erbin von Haldensleben.<sup>3</sup> Hedwig von Formbach, Gräfin von Supplinburg married Gebhard, Graf von Supplinburg, son of Bernhard, Graf im Nordthüringengau and Ida <span>von Querfurt</span>, Gräfin im Nordthüringengau; Her 1st.<sup>2</sup> Hedwig von Formbach, Gräfin von Supplinburg married Dietrich II, Herzog von Ober-Lothringen, son of Gerhard, Herzog von Ober-Lothringen and Hedwige <span>de Namur</span>, after 9 June 1075; His 1st. Her 2nd.<sup>5</sup> Hedwig von Formbach, Gräfin von Supplinburg died between 1085 and 1090.<sup>1</sup> </div>Family 1Gebhard, Graf von Supplinburg b. circa 1050, d. 9 June 1075Children<div><ul><li>Judith <span>von Supplinburg</span><strong>+</strong> b. c 1074? </li><li>Lothar II <span>von Supplinburg</span>, Kaiser der Römisches Reich<strong>+</strong> b. Jun 1075, d. 4 Dec 1137<sup>6</sup></li></ul></div>Family 2Dietrich II, Herzog von Ober-Lothringen b. 1044, d. 23 January 1115Children<div><ul><li>Simon I, Herzog von Ober-Lothringen<strong>+</strong> b. 1076, d. 19 Apr 1139<sup>1,7</sup> </li><li>Gertrud <span>von Ober-Lothringen</span><strong>+</strong> b. c 1077, d. 23 May 1144<sup>5</sup></li></ul></div><div>Citations<ol><li>[S204] Roderick W. Stuart, <em>RfC</em>, 41-32. </li><li>[S970] MGDR, online http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/, Familie der Grafen von Supplinburg. </li><li>[S204] Roderick W. Stuart, <em>RfC</em>, 41-33. </li><li>[S204] Roderick W. Stuart, <em>RfC</em>, 41-32, c. 1056. </li><li>[S970] MGDR, online http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/, Verwandte Kaiser LOTHARS III. </li><li>[S187] Royal Genealogy Database, online http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/ </li><li>[S970] MGDR, online http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/, Haus Chatenois (Elsaß). </li></ol></div></div>