Hedwige of Forbach
1050-1095
Born: Forbach, Rastatt, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Died: Nancy, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, Kingdom of France
1050-1095
Born: Forbach, Rastatt, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Died: Nancy, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, Kingdom of France
<p><strong style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">*Hedwig Countess of Formbach </strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">born 1050 <Formbach, Germany>; </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">died about 1088</span></p> <p> </p> <p><br style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">father: </span><strong style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">*Frederick von Formbach </strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">born about 1020 Formbach, Hesse, Germany; </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">died 1059</span></p> <p> </p> <p><br style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">mother: </span><strong style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">*Gertrude von Haldensleben </strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">born about 1020 Austria; </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">died 21 February 1116</span></p> <p> </p> <p><br style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">siblings: </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">unknown</span></p> <p> </p> <p><br style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">spouse: </span><strong style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">*Thierry I (Dietricht I) Duke of Upper Lorraine </strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">born about 1044 Lorraine, France; </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">died 23 January 1115; </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">married about 1071 or 1080</span></p> <p> </p> <p><br style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">children:</span></p> <p><strong style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">*Simon I Duke of Lorraine</strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"> born 1072? Lorraine died 13 January 1137/38 or 19 April 1139</span></p> <p><strong style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">*Petronille Princess of Oberlothringen</strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"> born about 1086 Alcase-Lorraine, France; </span><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">died 24 May 1144</span></p> <p><strong style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">*Gisela de Lorraine</strong><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"> born 1088</span></p> <p><br style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"><br style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">biographical and/or anecdotal:</span><br style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"><br style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">notes or source:</span><br style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">LDS</span><br style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; text-align: -webkit-center;">ancestry.com</span></p>
<strong><span style="color: gray">HEDWIG</span></strong> (-[1090/93]). The <em>Vita Wirntonis</em> names "<em>Fridericus</em>" as father of "<em>Hedwigis, mater Lotharii regis</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[492]</span></span></span></span>. According to the 14th century <em>Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium</em>, "<em>Hadewic mater Lotharii regis et Ite comitisse de Purchausen</em>" was the only daughter of "<em>Fridericus senioris Tiemonis filius</em>" & his wife<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[493]</span></span></span></span>. Her alleged first marriage to "Graf Heinrich" is based on a misinterpretation of the report that Simon Duke of Lorraine married "<em>his stepmother's daughter whom she had by her first husband Graf Heinrich</em>"<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[494]</span></span></span></span>, assuming that Duke Simon was therefore the son of Hedwig's second husband, Thierry II Duke of Lorraine, by his second wife Gertrud de Flandre. According to <em>Europäische</em><em> Stammtafeln</em><span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[495]</span></span></span></span>, Duke Simon was the son of his father's first wife Hedwig. Poull<span><span style="font-size: 9pt"><span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'arial','sans-serif'">[496]</span></span></span></span> refers to several sources which apparently indicate that he was the son of Duke Thierry II's second marriage, including Duke Simon's own act dated 11 Apr 1126 referring to his deceased "<em>mother Gertrude</em>". However, the chronology is highly unfavourable for this possibility. If Duke Simon's wife had been the daughter of Hedwig von Formbach, by an otherwise unknown first husband, she must have been born before 1072, considering that Hedwig gave birth to two children by her husband Gerhard von Süpplingenburg who died in 1075. This would be incompatible with Duke Simon's wife having given birth to at least seven children, even if their marriage took place as early as [1112/13] as suggested by Poull. <strong><span style="color: gray">m firstly</span></strong> <strong>GERHARD von Süpplingenburg</strong> Graf im Harzgau, son of Graf im Harz- und Derlingau und in Nordthüringen & his wife Ida von Querfurt (-killed in battle Homburg 9 Jun 1075). <strong><span style="color: gray">m secondly</span></strong> ([1080]) as his first wife, <strong>THIERRY II Duke of Lorraine</strong>, son of GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia [Matfriede] & his wife Hadwide --- (-30 Dec 1115).